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Oil change (HELP?!)

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:58 am
by Benjdmin
Hi Dudes,

Its official, I have Vtec too! :D (EK4) "just until I get a EK9 or I feel crazy enough to drop a K20 in there.

So yeah I bought this car yesterday and I would like to do an oil change, as soon as possible.

My questions to you:

From your experience what oil is best to use on a B-series, preferably shell since I get discount on shell stuff.

Also, do you know if I can just go by my local Honda dealer and get an oil filter? (Or does anybody have one?)

Most importantly does anybody have time to help me do this oil change since I don’t want to do it at the dealer and learn how to do it myself?

I would like to get this done within the next day or two, if anybody could help I would greatly appreciate this.

Thanks in advance guys! :wink:

Benjamin

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:17 pm
by mr. X
1. I don't know about the oil.
2. You can (and probably should) get the oil filter at your local Honda dealer. Can't beat OEM parts.
3. The oil change is real simpel. If you've seen one, you've seen them all :lol:

It's a kinda long drive for me to Den Haag, so if anyone else would be so kind..

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:46 pm
by ee8
what is the mileage on the b16?

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:56 pm
by HondArd
I have 5 W 40 in my VTI, and the engine is a b18c4. Mostly you also could get an oil filter at Brezan or Raydo or any other general car parts shop, as long as you have all the details of your car at hand. There are also some sites in the internet ( http://www.hbase.nl/ and http://www.partsbase.nl/igpbs0.pgm ) where you only have to enter your license plate and you get a complete list of all the spare parts you need. Don't forget that you also need a new washer ring for your drain plug.
The job itself is easy to do, but if you need help, you can come to my place in about a week or two.

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:10 pm
by Benjdmin
Thanks for the advice guys, I just dropped by the dealership and got a filter.

Guess I also need a new washer then for the drain plug.

mr. X wrote:3. The oil change is real simple. If you've seen one, you've seen them all


So you don’t need special tools or anything? (Out with the old in with the new?) Is it really just as simple on a vtec engine? Is there noting else I still need to take into account?

ee8 wrote:what is the mileage on the b16?


176.XXXkm, No service book and the previous owner had no clue about anything! :lol:

But I got it for a fair price, its a 1996.

Cheers guys, thanks for the hep so far!

Benjamin

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:36 pm
by ee8
5w40 will do, or 10w40..........

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:38 pm
by Benjdmin
Cool, thanks Niels!

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:12 pm
by ee8
Benjdmin wrote:Cool, thanks Niels!


are you going to do it yourself?

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:47 pm
by Benjdmin
ee8 wrote:
Benjdmin wrote:Cool, thanks Niels!


are you going to do it yourself?


Well, that was the initial idea. Help would be greatly appreciated tho. :D

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:26 pm
by ee8
Benjdmin wrote:
ee8 wrote:
Benjdmin wrote:Cool, thanks Niels!


are you going to do it yourself?


Well, that was the initial idea. Help would be greatly appreciated tho. :D


there's nothing to it......it is a easy as changing your wheels or something like that.....

only thing to keep in mind is once oil is out and filter is changed, let engine run for about 10 seconds or zo and check oil level again, new filter is empy, needs some time to fill. and dont overfill..........2mm under upper level is fine.....

good luck.

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:25 pm
by mr. X
Benjdmin wrote:Thanks for the advice guys, I just dropped by the dealership and got a filter.

Guess I also need a new washer then for the drain plug.

mr. X wrote:3. The oil change is real simple. If you've seen one, you've seen them all


So you don’t need special tools or anything? (Out with the old in with the new?) Is it really just as simple on a vtec engine? Is there noting else I still need to take into account?


Sorry I didn't mension this one, yes you do need a new washer for the drain plug. You can get this at the dealership as well.

Also the drainplug has it's own torq spec.
I think it was 78 NM for the ITR, however I have NO clue for the EG. Ask the dealer when you go back for the washer, they can tell you.
Personally I really like doing stuff according to torq specs :-)
Do you have a torq wrench?
Also a special tool is required for loosening the oil filter. There are 2 kinds. One is like a real big socket (I think it's called a socket in English? Dopsleutel) and the other works with a strap that tightens itself around the filter.

When you have these it's real simpel.

Jack the car (alsways secure the car so it can never fall on you!!!) look for the drain bolt. Loosen it and have a large bucket at hand. (aprox a gallon will come out). Try to get the drain bolt before it drops in the bucket (nasty sh*t :lol :)
Wait untill it doesn't 'leak' anymore.
Then remove the oil filter itself.
Put some fresh oil on the rubber seal befor installing the new filter.
Screw the filter in place (hand tight is ok)
Take the drain plug and the NEW washer and torq it to spec.
Lower the car, refill the system (usually takes IN as much oil as there came OUT) But you can also ask the dealer how much oil you should aprox fill.

Like Niels said, start the car and let it turn a few times.
Then recheck the system.

I personally also check it oil level the day after.

Hope I could help.

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:14 pm
by Benjdmin
Ok, I think it seems to be straight forward.

I have a torque wrench; I just need to go buy the tools to remove the oil filter and get the washer.

Ill also ask at the dealership about the torque spec of the drain bolt.

I’m a real noob when it comes to DIY car stuff, but I’m tired of going to the dealership for every little thing.

Ill let you guys know how I get on... :lol:

Thanks again, :thumbs:

Benjamin

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:55 pm
by ee8
if the old filter is an oem filter too you dont need any special tools to remove it......you can unsrew is with your bare hands......

and if you have some experience with working on cars you can feel when the drainbold is tightened enough.....just like a spark plug, you can feel it when it squeezes the washer together...... :lol:

and also, to get un-noobeb in diy, changing the oil is a good start..........gets your hands greasy and sh*t....... 8)

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 4:21 pm
by Benjdmin
Just wanted to let you guys know that I did get my fingers dirty. Everything worked out fine, was really easy.

Thanks again for the help, now on to the timing belt! :lol:

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:18 pm
by mr. X
Haha nice one..

Timing belt isn't to hard either.